Jehovah's Witnesses are only permitted to absorb and apply the scriptures in ways which their hierarchy dictate.
The post below should bring it home to r&f JW's that they are being seriously diverted from what the Bible really teaches.
The Fall Guy
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"Jehovah" and the less emphasized "Jesus." WHY?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthere has always been less emphasis on jesus, and more on the name jehovah.
if jesus played for the wtbts baseball team, he would play right field.
he would be good enough to start but by playing right field, he wouldn't see too many baseballs hit his way.
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The Fall Guy
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Marriage Proposal in the Kingdom Hall
by Listener injust when you think you've seen it all comes another interesting use of a kingdom hall.a young man serenades his girlfriend with a song (possibly a watchtower song) from the stage through a microphone and backed by recorded music.
then he steps off the stage and gets down on one knee and proposes as he pulls out a ring from his coat pocket.
the large projector screen flashes up behind them with a picture of a sapphire and diamond ring.cameras capture the joyous moment as she accepts and they lock together in a loving hug.
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The Fall Guy
Well, if the Glorious Ones (G.B.) could get away with sanctioning and orchestrating the "Happy" video at the World HQ, then this is trivial in comparison!
If anyone is punished for this, it should open their eyes to the hypocrisy of the Pharisees in Warwick. Here's hoping.
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Brazen Conduct???
by Vanderhoven7 inhow is brazen conduct defined by the elders?
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do you know of any cases where it has been improperly used against the r&f...you-know, like squeezing the toothpaste tube the wrong way is sometimes touted as mental cruelty?
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The Fall Guy
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram are generally used as the example of "rebelling" against God's appointed representative/s. (aka elders) Sigh.
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They are all dead!
by Sour Grapes inthe watchtower company and the jdubs talk so nonchalantly about the year 1914, the year they say jesus became king in the heavenly kingdom.
they talk about the year like it was just a short time ago.
the invisible king began ruling in the invisible kingdom.
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The Fall Guy
Great minds Cofty. :)
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They are all dead!
by Sour Grapes inthe watchtower company and the jdubs talk so nonchalantly about the year 1914, the year they say jesus became king in the heavenly kingdom.
they talk about the year like it was just a short time ago.
the invisible king began ruling in the invisible kingdom.
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The Fall Guy
The cult's calculation of the generation which "saw all these things" was once worded as being any Bible Student/JW (not worldly person!)) who was old enough and spiritually aware of the significance of that year, as is seen in the first reference below. The other references confirm the "truth" which the faithful slave fed to J.W.'s
This would imply that a Bible Student (soon to be a JW) would have to have been at least 12-14 years old to be cognizant of the events unfolding in 1914 - making their year of birth 1900-1902. There are not that many 116-118 year old JW's living near me.
*** w78 10/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers - Jesus said “this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.” Which generation is this, and how long is it?
“Based on the Bible and its fulfillment in history, Jehovah’s Witnesses (not the Bible!) have often pointed out that Christ’s prophecy was to have two applications: First, between 33 C.E. and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 C.E.; second, a larger fulfillment in this “time of the end” since 1914 C.E.......Thus, when it comes to the application in our time, the “generation” logically would not apply to babies born during World War I. It applies to Christ’s followers and others who were able to observe that war and the other things that have occurred in fulfillment of Jesus’ composite “sign.”
w51 6/1 p. 335 par. 10 - “Bible chronology told us that these events were due to start A.D. 1914. The Watchtower has repeatedly published this date with proof of its Scripturalness, the first time being in 1880, thirty-four years in advance. Hence our generation is the generation that will see the start and finish of these things, including Armageddon.”
w53 2/15 p. 124 par. 35 - “The generation that began to see these things in 1914 will witness the final accumulated judgments of Jehovah God, though some individuals who are part of this generation may die before the end of this world’s system of things takes place.”
w62 3/1 p. 132 - “This generation of mankind that is hearing the good news of God’s kingdom and that saw the beginning of world sorrows in 1914 would also see the end of those sorrows in this world’s destruction.”
w69 2/15 p. 101 - “However, there are people still living who were alive in 1914 and saw what was happening then and who were old enough that they still remember those events.”
ml p. 24 par. 35 - “At Job 24:1 we read: “The day of reckoning is no secret to the Almighty, though those who know him have no hint of its date.” (The New English Bible)
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The Fall Guy
Yup, Mr. J.F. Rutherfraud decided to amend the fulfilment of Isaiah's prophecy by coming up with an even catchier name than boring old "Christians."
(Isaiah 62:2) "And you will be called by a new name, Which Jehovah’s own mouth will designate."
(Acts 11:26) "...and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called
ChristiansJ.W.'s."The IBSA name never got discarded though.
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EMDR Therapy Anyone?
by Brian J intwo+ months into marital counseling for my wife (pimi) and i (pimo).
wife after decades of marriage decides for the first time to bring up separation due to, drum-roll please...... absolute endangerment of spiritual life.
a spouse may constantly try to make it impossible for the mate to pursue true worship or may even try to force that mate to break god’s commands in some way.
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The Fall Guy
In what way does your wife feel "spiritually endangered?" Have you informed her of some of the WTBTS's "inconvenient truths?" Such information would scare her!
Ask your wife if her cult has removed this scripture from their Revised New World Translation -
1 Corinthians 7:13........if a woman has an unbelieving husband and he is agreeable to staying with her, let her not leave her husband.
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Questions to be answered/asked by JW Bible students
by The Fall Guy inpotential recruits of the cult known as jehovah's witnesses/wtbts will eventually be asked the following two questions as they hand over every aspect and control of their lives to the org;.
on the basis of the sacrifice of jesus christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to jehovah to do his will?.
do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directed organization?.
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The Fall Guy
Potential recruits of the cult known as Jehovah's Witnesses/WTBTS will eventually be asked the following two questions as they hand over every aspect and control of their lives to the org;
On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?
Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?
By your clear and affirmative answer to both questions............bla, bla,bla.
Such potential victims should ask JW's the following two questions before they even consider starting a study with them;
If I get baptised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, will I be expected to discontinue friendships and social events with people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses?
If after getting baptised I raise any serious doubts with other JW's regarding doctrinal and/or organizational topics, will I be chastised in some way by other JW's?
By your clear and affirmative answer to both questions, I wish to cease any contact or association with you and your denomination.
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The Fall Guy
Many happy returns Stan!
I hear that you've got the body of a 25 year old; if the local police check your chest-freezer, you're in big trouble! :)
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Solicitors Visit Update
by pale.emperor inin case you're not aware of my last two threads:.
the situation that arose in that my mother has been having secret access to my daughter and refusing to tell me how she is: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5012900121935872/am-overreacting-here.
the build up to my solicitors visit: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6284953638666240/solicitors-appontment-tomorrow-advice-appreciated.
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The Fall Guy
Bloody brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now your ex-wife knows exactly where she stands - and she can give the good news (tm) to your mother.
Well done P.E.